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Somfy PoE Motors: Power and Data on One Ethernet Cable

Somfy PoE motors take power and control on a single Ethernet cable and talk to control systems through the Synergy API. Learn the two Sonesse PoE motors, how to size the switch, and how they integrate.

  • 4 modules
  • 13 min
  • 10-question quiz
  • Free certificate

You will be able to: Specify a Somfy Sonesse PoE motor and size the switch that powers it.

Start the course

Inside this course

4 modules, one idea at a time

  1. One cable does both jobsWhat a PoE motor is and why it changes the install. After this module you can explain PoE shades to a facilities manager.3 lessons · scenario check
  2. Compare the two motorsHow the Sonesse 30 PoE and Sonesse 40 PoE differ on power, noise and tube. After this module you can pick the right one for a room.3 lessons · scenario check
  3. Size the switchThe number that trips PoE shade projects: the switch power budget. After this module you can check a switch against a floor of shades.2 lessons · scenario check
  4. IntegrationHow PoE motors talk to control systems. After this module you can describe the control path without a bridge in the rack.3 lessons · scenario check
  5. Final quiz10 real job scenarios, one per screen, each with a hint if you need it. Score 80% to pass and get your certificate.

Module 1 of 4

One cable does both jobs

What a PoE motor is and why it changes the install. After this module you can explain PoE shades to a facilities manager.

3 lessons, then a scenario check.

One cable does both jobs

Power and data together

A Somfy PoE motor takes its power and its control over one Ethernet cable from a PoE switch port. No line voltage runs to the window.

ExampleOn an office floor wired for structured cabling, the low-voltage contractor runs the shade drops with the rest.

ONE CABLEPoE switchportone Ethernet cablepower + dataPoE motorRJ45

One cable does both jobs

Sonesse 30 PoE

Somfy lists the Sonesse 30 PoE (1241147) at 1.5 Nm and 25 rpm, with IP control and a round head.

On the jobLabel each switch port with the window it feeds. It saves a day of commissioning.

Somfy Sonesse 30 POE Motor (1.5Nm, 25rpm) (1241147)
Sonesse 30 PoE (1241147)

One cable does both jobs

Sonesse 40 PoE

Somfy names the Sonesse 40 PoE "at 2/25 Type 2 (30W)" (1241426). It ends in an RJ45 plug and has a round head.

Watch forRead the Type in the Somfy name. It tells the network engineer which port class to provide.

Somfy Sonesse 40 PoE bt 2/25 Type 2 (30W) Motor (2Nm, 10-25rpm) (1241426)
Sonesse 40 PoE Type 2 (1241426)

Check yourself

A facilities manager asks how many cables a PoE shade needs. What do you say?

Module 2 of 4

Compare the two motors

How the Sonesse 30 PoE and Sonesse 40 PoE differ on power, noise and tube. After this module you can pick the right one for a room.

3 lessons, then a scenario check.

Compare the two motors

Side by side

Somfy lists 18 W running and 1.4 W standby for the Sonesse 30 PoE, and 25 W running and 1 W standby for the Sonesse 40 PoE.

ExampleA quiet conference room favors the Sonesse 40 PoE at 39 dB over the Sonesse 30 PoE at 47 dB.

TWO PoE MOTORSSonesse 30 PoESonesse 40 PoEPart12411471241426Running power18 W25 WStandby1.4 W1 WNoise47 dB39 dBMin. tube ID1.13 in1.46 inHeadRoundRound

Compare the two motors

Tube and crown

The Sonesse 30 PoE needs a 1.13 in tube bore and the Sonesse 40 PoE needs 1.46 in. A 40mm octagonal tube takes the LS40 Octagonal Rubberized Crown and Drive Set (9016655).

On the jobMeasure the tube bore before you choose between the 30 and the 40.

Somfy LS40 Octagonal Rubberized Crown and Drive Set (9016655)
LS40 Octagonal Rubberized Crown and Drive Set (9016655)

Compare the two motors

Round-head brackets

Both PoE motors carry a round head, so they need round-head brackets such as the RollEase 2 in SkyLine Universal Motor and Idler Bracket (9016325).

Watch forA star bracket will not hold either PoE motor.

Somfy RollEase 2 inch SkyLine Universal Motor Bracket and Idler Bracket (9016325)
RollEase 2 in SkyLine Universal Motor and Idler Bracket (9016325)

Check yourself

A tube has a 1.3 in bore. Which PoE motor fits?

Module 3 of 4

Size the switch

The number that trips PoE shade projects: the switch power budget. After this module you can check a switch against a floor of shades.

2 lessons, then a scenario check.

Size the switch

The port and the window

Both motors take a 42.5 to 57 V supply. The Sonesse 30 PoE draws 18 W running and the Sonesse 40 PoE, named Type 2 (30W), draws 25 W.

ExampleGive each Sonesse 40 PoE a port that supports the Type 2 class in its name.

THE PORTSupply window42.5 to 57 VSonesse 30 PoE18 W runningSonesse 40 PoE25 W runningSonesse 40 PoE nameType 2 (30W)

Size the switch

Check the total, not one port

Shades on a schedule move together. Add the running watts of every motor on the switch and compare with the switch total budget.

Watch forA switch can offer full power per port and still run out when every port draws at once.

SIZE THE SWITCH1818181818181818181810 x 18 W = 180 W at onceShades on one schedule move together.Check the switch total, not one port.

Check yourself

Twelve Sonesse 30 PoE motors share one switch and move on the same schedule. What total do you check?

Module 4 of 4

Integration

How PoE motors talk to control systems. After this module you can describe the control path without a bridge in the rack.

3 lessons, then a scenario check.

Integration

Synergy API inside

Somfy says the PoE motors carry the Synergy API, which allows direct integration with third-party control systems and removes the need for extra hardware.

ExampleThe integrator's control system addresses each shade as a device on the network.

SYNERGY APIControl systemcertified driverNetworkPoE motorSynergy APINo extra interface box between them.

Integration

PoE gateway for SDN jobs

Somfy sells the SDN Power over Ethernet Gateway (1860326) for jobs that run Sonesse 30 and 40 PoE motors with an SDN system.

On the jobAsk early whether the job also carries RS485 SDN motors. That decides the gateway.

Somfy SDN Power over Ethernet (PoE) Gateway (1860326)
SDN Power over Ethernet Gateway (1860326)

Integration

Check panel compatibility

Somfy notes the Sonesse 30 PoE is not compatible with PoE touch panels. Plan control through the network and the control system.

Watch forDo not promise a PoE touch panel on a Sonesse 30 PoE job.

Somfy Sonesse 30 POE Motor (1.5Nm, 25rpm) (1241147)
Sonesse 30 PoE (1241147)

Check yourself

An integrator asks what interface box sits between the control system and a Somfy PoE motor. What do you say?

Final quiz

10 questions. Score 80% to pass.

Each question is a real job scenario, one per screen. Stuck? Tap the hint. You see the right answer and why right after you choose. Pass and you get a printable certificate, plus a 10% code for your first ShadeMotorsDirect order.

Question 1 of 10

On the job: A facilities manager asks what reaches each PoE shade.

What is the answer?

Question 2 of 10

On the job: You need the torque of the Sonesse 30 PoE.

What does Somfy list?

Question 3 of 10

On the job: A quiet boardroom needs a PoE shade.

Which motor is rated quieter?

Question 4 of 10

On the job: A tube bore measures 1.3 in.

Which PoE motor fits?

Question 5 of 10

On the job: An installer brings LT50 star brackets for PoE motors.

What is wrong?

Question 6 of 10

On the job: You plan the network for Sonesse 40 PoE motors.

What running draw does Somfy list?

Question 7 of 10

On the job: Ten Sonesse 30 PoE shades move on one schedule.

What total running draw do you check?

Question 8 of 10

On the job: A switch offers full power on every port.

Why can it still fall short?

Question 9 of 10

On the job: An integrator asks what links Control4 to the PoE motor.

What do you say?

Question 10 of 10

On the job: A Sonesse 30 PoE job spec asks for PoE touch panels.

What do you flag?

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Parts used in this course

Genuine Somfy parts, 5-year warranty