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LT50 or LT60: When a Somfy Shade Outgrows 50 Nm

LT50 and LT60 are two Somfy motor platforms with different tube minimums and no torque overlap in the Altus RTS range. Learn where LT50 runs out, what changes when you step up, and what stays the same.

  • 5 modules
  • 14 min
  • 10-question quiz
  • Free certificate

You will be able to: Choose between LT50 and LT60 from tube size and torque, and order the parts that change with the platform.

Start the course

Inside this course

5 modules, one idea at a time

  1. Two platforms, two tubesThe one measurement that decides the platform. After this module you can look at an installed tube and know which motors can go in it.3 lessons · scenario check
  2. Where LT50 runs outThe torque ceiling of each platform in the Altus RTS range. After this module you will know exactly when a load forces the move to LT60.3 lessons · scenario check
  3. More torque, same speedWhy stepping up to LT60 does not slow the shade down. After this module you can answer the speed question before the client asks it.3 lessons · scenario check
  4. What changes with the platformThe parts that must change when a job moves to LT60. After this module you can budget every part of the platform change.4 lessons · scenario check
  5. What stays the sameThe parts of the system that do not change between LT50 and LT60. After this module you can reassure a client that their controls carry over.3 lessons · scenario check
  6. Final quiz10 real job scenarios, one per screen, each with a hint if you need it. Score 80% to pass and get your certificate.

Module 1 of 5

Two platforms, two tubes

The one measurement that decides the platform. After this module you can look at an installed tube and know which motors can go in it.

3 lessons, then a scenario check.

Two platforms, two tubes

The tube minimums

Somfy lists a 1.85 in minimum tube inside diameter for the Altus RTS 550R2 (LT50) and 2.37 in for the Altus RTS 660R2, 680R2 and 6100R2 (LT60).

ExampleA tube with a 2 in bore takes an LT50 motor. An LT60 motor will not slide in.

TWO PLATFORMS, TWO TUBESLT50min. tube ID 1.85 inLT60min. tube ID 2.37 in

Two platforms, two tubes

Measure the inside

Measure across the inside of the tube, not the outside. The wall eats into the bore, and the motor minimum is an inside figure.

On the jobMeasure at the cut end where the motor goes in. Write the figure on the work order before you choose a motor.

MEASURE THE INSIDEinside diameterMeasure insidethe wall, not acrossthe outside.Under 2.37 in? LT60will not go in.

Two platforms, two tubes

An LT50 example

The Altus RTS 550R2 (1038170) is the 50 Nm LT50 motor. Somfy lists a star head, 14 rpm and IP 44.

Watch forA tube already cut for LT50 locks the job to LT50 unless you replace the tube too.

Somfy Altus RTS 550R2 (1038170)
Altus RTS 550R2 (1038170)

Check yourself

An existing awning tube measures 2.1 in inside. The new load sizes out at 45 Nm. Which platform?

Module 2 of 5

Where LT50 runs out

The torque ceiling of each platform in the Altus RTS range. After this module you will know exactly when a load forces the move to LT60.

3 lessons, then a scenario check.

Where LT50 runs out

LT50 tops out at 50 Nm

In the Altus RTS range Somfy lists the 525A2 at 25 Nm and the 550R2 at 50 Nm on LT50. LT60 starts with the 660R2 at 60 Nm.

ExampleA load that sizes out at 55 Nm has no LT50 option in this range. It moves to LT60.

WHERE LT50 RUNS OUT25525A250550R260660R280680R21006100R255 Nm loadTorque in Nm. LT50 dark, LT60 white. Altus RTS range.

Where LT50 runs out

The LT60 steps

The LT60 Altus RTS motors are the 660R2 at 60 Nm, the 680R2 at 80 Nm and the 6100R2 at 100 Nm.

On the jobSize the load first, then pick the smallest motor that covers it. Oversizing to LT60 means a bigger tube for no gain.

Somfy LT60 680R2 Altus RTS 120V 3-Wire Motor (1164261)
LT60 Altus RTS 680R2 (1164261)

Where LT50 runs out

Pick in this order

Size the load, find the torque, choose the smallest motor that covers it. If that number is above 50 Nm, the job is LT60.

Watch forDo not round a 52 Nm load down to fit LT50. The platform change is cheaper than a motor that runs at its limit.

PICK IN THIS ORDERSize the loadFind the torqueSmallest motor that covers itOver 50 Nm? LT60

Check yourself

A wide commercial awning sizes out at 58 Nm. Which Altus RTS motor is the smallest that covers it?

Module 3 of 5

More torque, same speed

Why stepping up to LT60 does not slow the shade down. After this module you can answer the speed question before the client asks it.

3 lessons, then a scenario check.

More torque, same speed

14 rpm across the top

Somfy lists the 550R2, 660R2, 680R2 and 6100R2 all at 14 rpm. Moving from 50 Nm to 100 Nm keeps the same speed.

ExampleSwapping a struggling 550R2 for a 680R2 gives 80 Nm with the same travel time.

MORE TORQUE, SAME SPEED550R214 rpm660R214 rpm680R214 rpm6100R214 rpm50 Nm to 100 Nm at the same speed.

More torque, same speed

The top of the range

The LT60 Altus RTS 6100R2 (1166289) is 100 Nm at 14 rpm, the strongest Altus RTS motor in this course.

On the jobFor large rolling shutters, start sizing near the top of LT60 and work down.

Somfy LT60 6100R2 Altus RTS 120V 3-Wire Motor (1166289)
LT60 Altus RTS 6100R2 (1166289)

More torque, same speed

A stalling 550R2 has nowhere to go on LT50

The 550R2 is the top of LT50 in the Altus RTS range. When a load outgrows it, the next step is LT60, and that needs a tube with at least a 2.37 in bore.

Watch forMeasure the old tube before you quote the swap. If the bore is under 2.37 in, the tube changes too.

WHERE LT50 RUNS OUT25525A250550R260660R280680R21006100R255 Nm loadTorque in Nm. LT50 dark, LT60 white. Altus RTS range.

Check yourself

A client worries the bigger LT60 motor will make the shade slower than the old 550R2. What do you tell them?

Module 4 of 5

What changes with the platform

The parts that must change when a job moves to LT60. After this module you can budget every part of the platform change.

4 lessons, then a scenario check.

What changes with the platform

Budget the whole platform

Moving to LT60 changes the tube, the crown, the drive and the bracket. The motor is only one line of the order.

ExampleA 55 Nm quote that lists only an LT60 motor will stall at install, because the LT50 crown and bracket will not fit.

BUDGET THE WHOLE PLATFORMChangesTubeCrownDriveBracketStaysRTS remotesWall switchesTaHoma433.420 MHz on both

What changes with the platform

Crowns are platform specific

An LT50 crown will not mount an LT60 motor. LT60 jobs use LT60 crowns, such as the 70mm octagonal LT60 crown (9705340).

Watch forCrowns look alike in a parts bin. Read LT50 or LT60 on the bag before it goes in the van.

Somfy 70mm Octagonal LT60 Crown (9705340)
70mm Octagonal LT60 Crown (9705340)

What changes with the platform

Some drives fit both

A few drives are built for both platforms and carry LT50/60 in the name, such as the LT50/60 Octagonal 70mm Drive (9761002).

On the jobIf the part name does not say LT50/60, treat it as one platform only.

Somfy LT50/60 Octagonal 70MM Drive (9761002)
LT50/60 Octagonal 70mm Drive (9761002)

What changes with the platform

What crosses over

LT50 crowns and brackets do not cross to LT60. Drives named LT50/60 do. RTS controls work on both.

ExampleThe LT50 Universal Motor Bracket (9410665) is an LT50 part. An LT60 job needs its own bracket.

WHAT CROSSES OVERLT50 crown on LT60LT50 bracket on LT60Drive named LT50/60RTS remote on either

Check yourself

You are moving a job from a 550R2 to a 680R2 in a new 2.5 in tube. Which parts must you reorder?

Module 5 of 5

What stays the same

The parts of the system that do not change between LT50 and LT60. After this module you can reassure a client that their controls carry over.

3 lessons, then a scenario check.

What stays the same

Controls carry over

Somfy lists 433.420 MHz RTS on these Altus RTS motors on both platforms. The same RTS remotes, wall switches and TaHoma hub run either one.

ExampleA client upgrading one awning to LT60 keeps the Telis remote they already use.

BUDGET THE WHOLE PLATFORMChangesTubeCrownDriveBracketStaysRTS remotesWall switchesTaHoma433.420 MHz on both

What stays the same

Check the head every time

Somfy lists a star head on the 550R2, 660R2 and 680R2. Head type is a per-part spec, so confirm it on each part number before you order a bracket.

Watch forElsewhere in the Somfy range, motors with similar codes carry round or square heads. Never assume star.

THE HEAD IS NOT IN THE CODEStar506S2 (1001809)Round404S2 (1240380)Square504A8 (1134023)

What stays the same

Same exterior rating

Somfy rates the 525A2, 550R2, 660R2, 680R2 and 6100R2 at IP 44. Stepping up from LT50 to LT60 keeps the same protection rating.

ExampleA client moving a patio awning from a 550R2 to a 660R2 keeps the IP 44 rating they had before.

Somfy LT60 Altus RTS 660R2 (1162271)
LT60 Altus RTS 660R2 (1162271)

Check yourself

A client upgrading to LT60 asks if they need a new remote. What do you tell them?

Final quiz

10 questions. Score 80% to pass.

Each question is a real job scenario, one per screen. Stuck? Tap the hint. You see the right answer and why right after you choose. Pass and you get a printable certificate, plus a 10% code for your first ShadeMotorsDirect order.

Question 1 of 10

On the job: A replacement awning tube measures 2.2 in inside diameter.

Which platform can go in it?

Question 2 of 10

On the job: A fabricator measured the outside of a tube and got 2.5 in.

Why is that not enough to choose the platform?

Question 3 of 10

On the job: A load sizes out at 55 Nm.

Which Altus RTS motor is the smallest that covers it?

Question 4 of 10

On the job: A dealer suggests an LT60 motor for a 30 Nm shade "to be safe".

What is the cost of that choice?

Question 5 of 10

On the job: A heavy shutter needs 90 Nm.

Which motor covers it?

Question 6 of 10

On the job: A client asks if moving from a 550R2 to a 680R2 makes the awning slower.

What does Somfy list?

Question 7 of 10

On the job: A quote for a 58 Nm job lists an LT60 motor and the existing LT50 bracket.

What happens at install?

Question 8 of 10

On the job: You find a drive in stock labeled LT50/60 Octagonal 70mm.

Can it go on an LT60 job?

Question 9 of 10

On the job: A client is upgrading one patio awning from LT50 to LT60.

What happens to their RTS remote?

Question 10 of 10

On the job: You are ordering a bracket for an LT60 motor you have never installed.

What do you confirm first?

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